Ida Liptow Linenfelser’s mother was Julia Matilda Kramer.
Julia’s grandfather was Johann Georg Kramer, born April 1, 1805 in Plieningen, Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany.
On February 12, 1833, Johann married Agnes Barbara Fischer in Bernausen, Wurttemberg. It appears that one or both newlyweds were Lutheran. Agnes was born on October 2, 1809 in Bernhausen, Neckarkreis, Wuerttemberg, Germany, which is 5.1 km south of Plieningen.
Johann and Agnes had 2 sons who were born in Freiburg, Baden-Württemberg, Germany:
- William Kramer 1842-1917
- Charles “Andrew” 1846-1929
According to the 1910 census the Kramer family immigrated to the US in 1850. They settled in Erie County, Ohio to become farmers. This was during the first major wave of German immigrants, who mostly came from southwestern Germany.
In 1860 the Kramer family is living in Margaretta, Erie County, Ohio.
In 1870, Charles was married to Matilda (Rothdow) and they lived in Perkins, Erie Co, Ohio with their 8 month old daughter also named Matilda. They went on to have 6 children: Matilda, Julia, Conrad, William, John and Agnes.
Sometime between 1873 and 1877, the Kramer family moved to Exeter Twp, Michigan.
Julia Kramer married August Liptow, and Matilda married Lawrence Liptow. I believe August and Lawrence are cousins, Lawrence is the son of a John and Mary Liptow.
Note: In 1880, there is an Agnes Kramer (71, widowed) living in Sandusky, Ohio with her daughter Christina (28, single) and a 1 year old boy named Charles who is listed as an adopted child. There is a Christina Kramer born May 9, 1851 in Horchheim, Rheinland-Pfalz, Deutschland. I only found reference to her in a German birth record and the 1880 census. I am not sure that this Agnes and Christina are the same family of Kramers. It seems odd that Christina is not listed in any other census lists of John, Agnes, Charles and William.